Wednesday, November 18, 2015


A brief post.  An interpretation of the classic broken gun image first used by Peace News. Taken for a Crass Conway Hall gig poster. One peace symbol/eiffel tower, the flags of the world and then suffuse with the green within.

Monday, November 09, 2015

Billy Idol 2015 Strumpshaw Fen and a few Fireworks.

Welcomeback to Wrhiswasacon, mis-PRINT free form Art PUNK writery wittery blawg. The Blog not just about a Sex Pistol.  

Yesterday Mrs Wasanon and I (me Julie, aye?) nipped out of the big bad shopping shitty to Strumpshaw Fen. Which is ane ROYAL Soc for the protection of birds, reserve.  East of Brundall, which is not so very far East of Norwich in Eastern England. Very pleasant wandering around it was too. Sunday vibes. Marshes, reeds, bullrushes. Noise of tranes soon far away.  Warm southerly wind.  It is weird November weather.  Saw some wild pheasants, (though they seemed very unwild as no one was blasting at them as they usually do with a horrible shotgun in order to just eat their breasts and throw the rest of them away after they have killed them).   

Hung out in some restful bird hides with birdies or spotters pointin' binoculars and cameras at various placid scenes.  Also spotted three (3) marsh harriers, geeseys of unknown species, (rhymes) laughing ducks, some herons in flight and one particularly striking grey-blue specimen on the ground. It was in the reeds standing poised spear-like. And with its beak pointing keenly into a pool hopefully full ay fush! As still and motionless until it (twitched) in fact as a probly typical member of a BBC Top of the Pops studio audience circa 1975.   Lot of mud to plash and stodge through though to get round the circuit. I wanted to see the Fen raft spider but it was asleep or something and so I had to be content with a passing hornet.  


Friday, what happened?  Standing in a light smirr of rain? And?  Yes!  Fireworks!  Big Bang in the City fireworks as the Norvicii council blew up loads of fantastic fireworks to some dubious tunes outside ye olde museum/prison/castle all in one - and in the streets. Place was rammed.  "Teen Spirit" was about the best of the tunes accompanying the colours and the whooshes.  Assuredly that very well know tune "I would do anything for you (but I won't do that) " ("Bat Out Of Hell") by Meatloaf was about the WORST  Can't imagine why the guy given the job of devising a playlist to accompany fireworks chose that one.   Furthermore, the...

 Och stop ye moanin'!  


Ok so Steve is now 60 years old but we are not supposed to broadcast it.  And Billy Idol will be the same soon.  

Bill visited the (955 KLOS) Jonesy's juke box on 10/30/2015. I thought I would summarise a few bits of it and bang out a transcription of interessen gubbins.  Steve's got himself a new jingle or three in radio land too in his new post on The Rock of Southern California. too.  His new title, 

"The Lord of La Cienega". 

Not a great a graphic (will try harder) but this is where the studio is.


Bill's autobiographical book, "Billy Idol, Dancing With Myself" (Simon and Schuster, Castle Rising UK Limited 2014) is out and I recommend it as something Very Worthwhile to plug the gaps in any self respecting punkologists knowledge banks. And you MUST be a bit of a punkologist mustn't ye, or a least can read a bit in some way, or you wouldn't be taking a swatch at chriswasanon's aged and legendary blog now, would yer?  

In the show Bill announced that his bok or buik or book is now on the New York Times bestseller list.  

It was not ghost-written either as he authored it himself. Though it was bleedin' hard work as it was typed out using just two fingers. (click clack). Steve revealed that he himself was working on a book (YAYYYYYYY) with a guy and he admiringly asked how Bill set about writing his own book. Bill explained that he had "marinated" his chronological life-experiences. So he would immerse himself in the punk period of '76 say, and let those sets of experiences steep into him until he felt an urge to "write it up" -as it is called in academic circles.  Of course although his book was written chronologically (as proper history should be) he had to still "jump around" differing time periods as it were to recall them.

Generation X playing in 1977 at Le Gibus in Paris.
Original photograph by Ray Stevenson.

It was then explained that as Generation X's Tony James has an archivist-like memory he was a terrific source. Bill approached him for the Generation X period. Tony had even kept the ad, that Bill had placed in the press looking for musicians.  Idol is perhaps first known in PUNK as one of the Bromley Contingent, a loose group of fashion and style setters who were early Sex Pistols fans and lived in a dormitory town in the South East of London. (see useful mappe 1.) The Sire and Bill didn't work over that well mined seam.  

UseFUL mappe 1. Distance to London 10 miles.

Bill was a massive Beatle fan and lived at first in Worthing, on the South Coast of England (see ye old useful mappe 2.)

He was gig going from the age of 13 - seeing Black Sabbath, Zappa, Beefheart and then morphing into Glam, the Velvets and the Dolls and David Bowie. Though Bill's performing roots were in the Rock and Roll of Gene Vincent like.  He of course also saw Lou Reed performing separate to the Velvets. Jonesy then picked "Transformer" with Mick Ronson playing as one of his favourite albums. Bill was inspired by "Rock and Roll Animal" - modelling upon that. Here there was a guitarist who could really play (Steve Hunter) and a "punk rock" singer (Lou Reed). So Idol "in a way" stole that idea.  Substitute Bill for Lou and Steve Stevens for Hunter.  Bingo masters breakout! (a The Fall reference). 

OK lets have some TRANSCRIPTION:

Steve:  What was the first punk thing you saw?

Bill:   That would be the MC5 in 1969/70.  I was really lucky I saw them at a Phun City festival outside of Worthing, yeah MC5. And it was a kind of a hippie festival and er they just came on like and you know?

("Phun City" Festival in July of 1970.)

Steve:  Kick out the Jams?

Bill:   Yes...

Steve:  You son of mofo...

Bill:   Yeah it was amazing, it kind of, that. that was what fired me up in 1970 you know?

Steve:  Yeah

Bill:   Seeing that was pretty incredible.

Controversial ad.

Steve:  That Queen track (Steve had played Queen's, "Sheer Heart Attack").

Bill:   Yeah I could cover that.

Steve:  Yeah sounds like Gen X, like the Judas Priest did.

Bill:   Its got the 16ths.

Steve:  The "Jing jing, jing, jing, jing, jing, jing, jing, jing, jing, jing jing jing jing jur jing"  (Rising to a climax).  The ole...ah.  Well there's a story behind that Queen one 'cos we were actually recordin' "Never Mind The Bollocks" at the time in Wessex studio which I know you've recorded in.

Bill:  Yeah we did "Valley Of The Dolls," there yeah.

Steve: In Islington (North London) And when we was in there, Queen was in there, I remember we walked in the studio once and Freddie was doin' some backing vocals. Well we didn't know, we just walked in the room where he was singin' an' he got all. He got all upset but.  Then after we kind of finished "Never Mind The Bollocks" I guess they were doing that album...what album was that?  Is it "Sheer Heart Attack?" I think that was the album.

Bill:  Yeah that was the album.

Steve: Steve or "summink for the world?"  Er anyway, the point is they were in at the same time and that sounds very Pistolsesque, I thought.

Bill:  Yes, yes! Quite far away from "Killer Queen" and stuff.

Steve: So I don't know if they were making fun or if they were tryin' to get on the bandwagon a little bit.

Bill:  It's not bad, I like that.

Steve: Its great!

Bill:  I could cover that!

Steve: And I think that's the drummer singin'

Bill:  Ah.

Steve: Remember the one song if you was in love with Queen?  "I'm In Love With My Car?"  That's a good 'un.  Anyway that's me story sooooo....

Bill: It's funny there I ran into Freddie Mercury, I wanted just to say something nice really and I said to him, "I really..."  You know  "Flash Gordon" had just come out so, "I really love that Flash Gordon" so I turned to walk out of the room and as I walked out of the room he said, "I didn't write that!"  So I couldn't help it, I turned round and said, (deep voice) "I know."  (Laughs)

Steve: Like a movie, "I know."

Bill:  He was so...

Steve: And he was not being nice?

Bill: (Repeats the story.) And I mean anybody else would just say, "OK great!" You know cos he sang on it, it's his..."great!"  Imitates the Queenster.  "Flash ahhhhahhhah".  Never thought that it was the guitarist writing I didn't get that. It was more like just saying, "I like that!" and he was, "I didn't write that!" Laughs heartily.

Steve: He got the 'ump. Was he a nice guy?

Bill:  He seemed like a nice bloke, yeah.  I just couldn't help but joke it was just funny, you know? But they were great, they were really great.  I met Brian May once and he kept thinking we were in "The Clash".  Me and Tony James. Kept sayin', "Now you're, you did that 'White Riot'.  (Laughs).  "No we're Generation X we..." And he was going. "No, no you do that 'White Riot', don't you? "Oh no, we're Generation X."

Steve:  Yeah I guess that was something you had to put up with then, cos it was not like something that was took really seriously, especially from those guys back then.

Bill:  We would all seem the same to them.

Steve: "Oh spikey hair guys. Oh they're a punk band, yeah!"

Bill:  "It must be The Cla.." (sh) (Laughs).  But he's a great guitarist and he's a...greater singer and.

Steve:  Fantastic.

Bill:  Actually that "Sheer Heart Attack" the drummer but you know, they're a fantastic band.

Steve: Yeah, Freddie probably didn't want nuffin' to do with it, he didn't write that one.


Steve: He used to work in Kensington market for a bit, Freddie Mercury.  I remember seein' him in there once when I was in there thievin' some platform boots.

Here are some rather funky 19th Century ladies boots instead. 

Steve: He was workin' in one of the places cos I mean he's very know his face and you'd recognise him in a "line-up" any day of the week, you know what I mean?


Steve: (referring to next song on the juke box)  Is this Gen X, its kind of on the verge weren't it?

Bill:   This is Gen X really and yeah. You're on it and Danny Kustow, Steve New, there's a million guitarists on it.

Steve:  We did this, well you did it and I did some overdubs on it at Air Studio. Oxford Street where I had a seizure.

Bill:   That's right.

Steve: I think it was doing this, it was weird, one minute I was listening back, next thing I'm on Oxford Street on a stretcher with old ladies lookin' at me.

Bill:  Yeah I'd just gone to the toilet and when I came out you were being taken out on a St. John's ambulance stretcher. You were really calm you were...

Steve: (shouting in a garbled sort of voice)  Er wha ah what ah hey!

Bill:  There's a story about that, what the hell happened?

Steve: Did I show up at the club, I can't remember?  Probably... "No time to lose!"

Amongst others Jonesy then played the song "Dancing With Myself."

Steve:  And before that we 'ad "Dancing With Myself," where I was er hangin' out of a window with my pants down.

Bill:   The whole of Oxford Circus looking up at you playing air guitar. And when we said, "what are you doing Steve," you said, "I'm dancin' with myself,"  sooooo...

Steve:  Brilliant, thank you for that.  Cos I don't remember.

Bill then announced a benefit gig for a Cancer charity called "Rhonda's kiss." Performing as The Hellcat Saints at the El Rey in Wilshire.  (Google them for their impressive line-up.)  Bill lost his father to cancer in 2014.

Facebook page here including pictures of the benefit that you can pinch (J.o.k.e) to make your own blog with, if you want:

Rhonda's kiss facebook page.

Bill and Steve talked about crash helmets as Bill had been in a motorcycle smash 25 years previously. After finishing the "Charmed Life" album he stayed up all night partying and had an axident near the sketch pad. The studio.  With Christopher Guest directing, Bill appeared in a Bank Of America commercial. Quite a self depracating (on BOA's part) ad campaign, there are some 4 of these ads floating about in US telly land. * Bill's also worked with quite a few great comedians including Adam Sandler. et al; Bill likes the character Ian Rubbish (search Ian Rubbish on this blog or google it). He remarks that Fred Armistin puts a bit of, "Kiss Me Deadly," Tooooniiiiiighhhhht!  into his act when he sends up all the punk acts. Steve plugs his twitter and instagram account.  Jonesy invites us to watch him looking like a jackass in five inch platform and who knows what else on there. Bill's twitter is @billyidol. Could be all lower case, all Caps, dunno, TRY it and see.  Steve doesn't respond to negative stuff in soshul meeja and either zaps it or leaves it.  They observe that all the Scottish blokes that were in bands were lunatics. There were about five of them and it never ended up good at the end of the night. People gettin' cut...

*  I hate adverts but as I've never done one, I've no idea really - they might be brilliant things to do. 

Franco the Beggar boy from the band "Tranespottin' 
tellin' some wido drafpak schemie fi Wester Hailes.  (FaUSE).

That's all for now until the next chriwasanon.  In the pipe, the 'Oo.



Saturday, November 07, 2015

Fred Armisen visits the box and East Anglia Punk History.

Welcome back to chriswasanon.

Yesterday Steve with Mr. Shovel in the house introduced the whistling concept part of the show to KLOS.  My reader should know what that is. This is a place that transcribes bits from Jonesy's jukebox so lets let the R in the Rock (not one of Steve's, I made that soubriquet up) Xplain:

Steve : What I do is play a guitar and I whistle, ok?  You 'ave to call in and tell me what I'm whistlin'.
The winner will go and see Sex Pistols play Cromer Links Pavillion Dec 24th 1977.   Ride.

Ride. MisCAP1Tioned  No its definitely them.

Shovel: First person to identify the song.

Steve: Which should be easy...

An old pic of Cromer Links Pavillion.  MisCAP1Tioned

Well Fred Armisen visited the box at the Rock KLOS of SoCal this week. You can "listen again(st)" on the website.  It was revealed in an International incident that Ozzy Osborne had taken a "Jimmy" up against the wall of the Alamo. But now he's going to apologise for it on the telly on the 'istory channel. Should make for a fantAstic series!  I too have a had a widdle in a few places. Bright's Crescent in Sprowston was always a good one...loads of 'em in that alley at the back of the Birdcage pub, so I know what it's like.  Never at Graceland though. Steve had a wee on Elvis' grave at Graceland.No its not something we should talk about but we did anyway.  BAD!

Oh yeah I wanna live in NW3 like Johnny Rubbish did.  There's a nice StrangLers segue there, for me forthcoming Hugh Cornwell piece, yeahhhhhhhh!  Steve then ran through his vocal talents demonstrating a range of authentic American accents, Fred was suitably impressed.  Steve said that he was a mess when he was hanging out with Kraut opening for the Psychedelic Furs.  Here Ian Rubbish the London comic alter Ego of his guest models a nice copy of an Anarchy shirt.   I always approve of stuff like that.   Looks like Phil has the goods on some Kraut material too  So go KIck down the doors and join the Professionals. Poor Cookie was involved in a road smash at that time too.  You can hear about that and learn of it (despite the hignorant hidiocy of media types who think otherwise) that mohicans, mohis or mohawks and whatever did not become part of the PunK uniforM until later by listening to the show.

Here is a possible Punk Uniform.  Models back to back posing in BOY clobber in the North Sea weirdly.

Then Steve made up a quote for apparently Jimi Hendrix is said to have remarked on the Sire:

"No one goes jing jing jing jing jing better than Steve Jones."

Big Porkies.   Jimi died in 1970.

Samarkand Hotel London September 17th 1970.  The next day Hendrix will be dead.

Jings Crivens Help ma Boab it is quite important to get your jngs (sound of playing the guitar) right.

So that was a quick run through of only SOME of Jonesy's show for you.

Remember 12 Bellz is Fridays 8pm until 10 pm, UK time and that is to 2. pm Cali time.


Now to more eclectic matters.  Eclectic means borrowing from different places.  There will soon be an out of date post on the downstairs Waterfront Norwich 2015 show by Adam Ant. A gig in which we was entirely cheated out of hearing "Whip in my valise". Also STILL TO COME the definitive CWA! account of Hugh Cornwell at Bury St Edmunds. Just so there is something else to Read.  In honour of fanzine culture, this blog faithfUlly reproduces typos but stops short of adding things it has forgotten to insert with a black felt tip.

I've been looking over a few old fanzines reCently from our area. Trees and Flowers or Flowers and Trees from Kings Lynn being particularly xcellent.

Page torn from Ripped and Trees or flowers and torn.

He hasn't changed a bit!

Major credit to Steve Toxin for writing about Punk in West Norfolk's Kings Lynn with its great connections to London and Cambridge and his continuing to retain interest in the music, the gigs and the scene up to about 1984. Like those bands that played at the old Gala Ballroom, Norwich.  None of whom I saw,  Even though I lived over the road from the place for nearly a year writing some pretty awful poetry man.  Tox tells me he has plans to update 2015 style Flowers and Trees/Tree and Flowers So we can look forward to that!!!

Interviewed Tox yesterday when we were slumped standing up against some horrible shop or other in that effort of a shopping centre "Crapelfield Mall" and have made notes on the subject somewhere. Could rant about that mall but there is no point.

Another major credit of the week goes to Matt Worley for turning his incisive mind to Punk in these here parts and doing proper pukka 1976-1984 History on it.  Having a beer with Steve Igs as we speak. A third credit of the week to Pete Nirvana for taking a better Saturday job than mine (which was working in a JUNK shop). He was working in Ace records in the City. Thanks for laughing at some guy's story of horror show violence when he met Sigue Sigue Sputnik back stage at the LCR in 1985, Pete.

Old age pensioner Charlie Harper (71) will be bringing the UK Subs to the Waterfront in December too. I might go to that one. If I can ever get over Lefty moaning about Charlie tie dying his wretched togs in their shared bath they had in Peckham, that is.  The UK Subs planned to release an album for each letter of the alphabet and it now appears that they've finally reached the letter "Z." CwA picks with ignorance, "Another Kind of Blues" "Warhead" "Teenage" and "Party in Paris".

Another round of punk shout outs, to old skools cools from '77, Jonty and to Peter Strike, Jon Fry and the coolest plumber I've ever met, Paul Webster!  Additional menchs, to Kate Philips for reminding me of K block at UEA, for Tom Bombadil's accounts of skinheeds breaking up Angelic Upstarts gigs in Great Yarmouth and so on.  To my mate Steve Hansell, hope he enjoyed Skindred and to Stephen Burb for a painful account of broken ribs and other experiences that went with the territory for some who attended  Crass at Stowmarket in 1980. See map.  Additional honorable Chrassical mentions to Castle Douglas finest blogger Al Puppy and to they who posted links to all those amazing Anarcho squat folks with their krazy coloured hair down in that there Lunnon place. Some kool stuff on face book.  Smooth sailing Luke!  Final thanks to Jonny Lubbock for the Time travel back to Cromer Links pic. The visuals at nearly the beginning of this post.

There's I hear quite a lot of commemorative Punk stuff coming up in Norwich next year.  Please watch this space for news of exciting goodies created by the type of people you know that your mother might have warned you not to hang out with but you still did anyway...until you got the job at Norwich Union Insurance. Viva Aviva.  Probly...

Saturday, October 31, 2015

SPECIAL last part of the Rat Scabies interview and xciting news of Steve's new show, post!

Welcome back to chriswasanon!!!

This post knocks the previous one off.  In case you didn't get it, Jonesy's jukebox is back and here is everything you need to know. 12 bells FRIDAYS 12 Noon to 2.PM. if you are in Sunny Californiay, That'll be 'til in Blighty.


A full playback with the Duke (Duke of Kent=Rent or the station advertising along with the playlists stripped out is available for listening pleasure) on the KLOS website.  Steve chatted on the Rock of Southern California on Friday 30th October 2015 with the station stalwart Bob Coburn. Then to the old Generation X front man, Billy Idol who popped in for a blether.  The Sire recommended his Instagram account as being highly entertaining viewing and it is!!!

Now you know.

Click annotated picture for full details.

Stone, Keith Richards was on BBC Radio 4's Desert Island Discs last week and I couldn't help but wondering... Has the broadcast media ever forgiven Steve for "coating off" Bill Grundy and playing that incendiary riff to God Save the Queen?  Well if the program planners at Desert Island Discs ever do, "pencil him in" then what would the lad from the Bush's top 10 choices of records be? I'd like to hear ole Jonesy chatting with Kirsty Young whilst choosing the top 10 tunes he'd keep himself occupied with when kicking his heels in desert island discs land.

So with "nearly" all the news that's fit to publish out of the way!  Here at LAST is (nearly) that final part of the "Rat Scabies visits the box" (for your reading pleasure,) interview.  'Ere can you remember that far back?  Part 2 is here  & part one is here  

Steve's favourite nosh-up place when he is back in the Smoke, Cookes pie and mash shop in Shepherds Bush has now (very recently) closed its doors and like for the final time. Not, not, not cos there is a steward's enquiry into "who ate all the pies." and it will be back tomoz.  It wont.  Its sad news.

The people wants pie 'n' mash!

I  was thinking of suggesting that Steve should come up and see us old "Farmers" in Norwich as they do serve pie and peas here on the Norwich market.  But it ain't the same, there's nae mash, there's nae mysterious "liquor" either.  There's mint sauce or pepper to be had though for the licker of Lichtenstein.

A very smart apron.

Steve "the Sire" did command us long ago to write his sayings down as you will see at the end of this interview and we have followed that order as faithful acolytes and presumably some vaguely worthy-ish jackanapes.  That's sort of where the whole not so silly billy idea for transcribing the shows came from. And dear Tina my co-pilot upon this blog was the originator of the transcribing caper. Not me. Its been some hard work trying to get all the words right but it is worthy work.  None of these interviews have been made up  ;-)

Way back in the days of yore there was Indie 103.1  A radio station that did make broadcasts out of Wilshire Avenue in Los Angeles, to LA.  Orange County and some environs and to the World thanks to the clever tubes of the Interwebs. And it did host a show piloted by one Steve Jones called "Jonesys Jukebox."  with assistance from Mark Sovel.  Which was a Good Thing. The reception for this fine stn was notoriously spotty in The City of Angels and Fools and Jackanapes. So streaming the show over the web was also a Good Thing.

There was a kind of rolling blog on the station's website that was open and uncensored whilst the show was being broadcast live. After it too.  Well that thing got so full of our comments, bizarre, astute, off-topic, rude, loving, friendly, our shout outs,  our jokes and our rolling banter that it ended up taking simply ages to load my dears. Or F5 for you windoze uzers.  Aye and especially on those slower old machines we all used to have to suffer/enjoy to connect to the people's Interwebs with.  In the end the blog on the website shut and many other blogs did shut that followed this show but this one and stuart mm's excellent blog  "jonesy's jukebox" have remained. You do understand, don't you?  Oh well.

Now it was a lovely sunny Cali day (as usual) on Wednesday 28 August 2005.  Mr Chris Millar was in the studio.  Steve was a pretty happy chappy as Chelsea (CFC) had beaten West Bromwich Albion in the footie. Aye.  A resounding 4.0. Here are the vital statistics for that day.

Lampard 23, 80; Joe Cole 43; Drogba 68 Attendance, 41,201.

Frank Skinner was not so chuffed though as the scabacious one aptly observed.  Maybe he looked like this?

Four Nil, gahhhhhhh.  Its Frank playing a part in DR WHO.

Last time we left this  Rat had said that little Jimmy Osmond was an "irritatin' little tick" Then Jones had remarked that the Hurdy Gurdy man himself had paid his "fine rat" (Scabies) in "ducats". Owed for on TOUR drumming duties with ...ole Mellow Yellow, Donovan.

Now Rat Scabies was the original drummer of a fine British "Punk Rock" outfit called The Damned. New Rose, Smash it up and so on.  If you don't know any of that stuff about the Damned, well you ken now.  Its probably worth reading the other parts of the interview.

Lets not tarry any further with preliminary pictures and explain that health and time permitting CwA! keeps his promises to post interviews.  So with out further broo ha ha, here it is . Hallow'een dedications to JR and to Aunty Chrissy and to Shloe and the Rotter and Jewelly and Chispa Filthy Lucre and Alison and Nevah and Pie and Mark Sovel and Stuart MM and Stuart Warwick AND dear Tina and Robert KP and Pauly Poos and that guy Et Al. And NYC GAIL and Irish Scots and Mishima and Steve Jones and Chris "Rat Scabies" Miller!  Ladies and gents is this the final bit of the Rat Scabies visits zer box 2005 interview? It is!!!

Part two is here  and part one is here

Remain blessed!  12 bellz is Friday 12 pm to  Time to knock it on zer 'ead!

Steve:  Do you still talk to any of the lads from the Damned?

Rat: Mmm, yeah sometimes, every now again.  Some of them more than others.

Steve: Who don't you get along with? The singer?

Rat:  Er, you know when you've been in a group with people and doing things together for so many years, you know much as you may want them out of your life you can't really do it cos you've still got interests and you know stuff going on that you're both involved with pays to keep a civil tongue in yer head sometimes, just to make it, you know...So and there's you know, I think its been so long now that the bitterness, resentment and animosity died away and its sort of left.

Steve: You grow up a little bit?

Rat: Well your life is too short isn't it, for all that?  Do I really care about feeling bad about something that is over and done with anyway?  You know I'm quite happy gettin' on with summink new.  Startin' over.  I've done all that bit now.

Steve: Do you think there will ever be a Damned reunion?

Rat: There's always talk about things like that.

Steve: Cos your one of the only few bands where the original members are still alive.  Other than the Pistols.

Rat: Yeah I know what would happen, soon as we say we'd reform one of them would pop their clogs or you know snuff it and...It'd never 'appen, (laughs) soon as we thought we'd 'ave a final pay day, it'd get shot out of the water or summink.

Steve: You guys could probably make a good packet with all the original guys.

Rat: Yeah, I, I dunno, its one of those things, its the 30 year anniversary next year, so obviously its the thing of like...well its the last chance to do it really cos there's not gonna be a forty year anniversary or a fifty, so its...People are talking about doing summink but like I say its always so up in the air with everyone, you've got a lot of fragile egos and a lot of people that are, you know, are doin' other things anyway.  So...

Steve: Yeah but this is like an earner.

Rat: Yeah, I wouldn't mind earnin' some money or summink.  But then again I wouldn't be particularly bothered if it didn't 'appen.

Steve: Yeah.

Rat:  That sounds really crap, dunnit?

Steve: What?

Rat: Well it sounds a bit negative, its sort of like, well you know the thing was really the Damned was me whole life and I was so devoted to playing in that group and lovin' bein' in that group and everythin' that went with it, when you get a divorce you kind of put all that on the back burner and you sort of deal with it and it doesn't mean as much to you.  So 'til I was actually in a room with Brian and Captain and that I wouldn't really know how I genuinely felt about playin' with them again.  And if you could still play the same way because I really don't think I could do something that was just going through the motions and being like: (unenthusiastic voice)

" 'ere we are, this is 'New Rose' "

And not playin' it very well or not you know doing the business and...

Steve: But I don't think you would do that I think you would just play it the way you took...that's what we did, Pistols when we did our reunion, we got in a room and started playin' and it was all great and we all enjoyed doin' it.  Them songs again you know?

Rat: Yeah I think that's the key innit?  You gotta get something back out of it.

Steve: When you're separated from each other and you don't talk, your heads just spin out of control.  As soon as you're all put in the room together its like you 'adn't broken up.  Its like you're right back there.

Rat: Really?  Is that how it was?

Steve: Yeah!

Rat: That's quite interesting cos I mean you 'ad yer fair share of problems didn't you?

Steve: Oh yeah...

Rat: With characters and not gettin' on and that so...

Steve: Course!

Rat: So did that all get resolved before you went back into play, or...?

Steve (Business like) It was just like, "Come on, we're gonna do this." And we all just got kinda stuck in and it was a lot of fun. We played for a year, we was on the road for a year.

Rat: Yeah I know, cos I was doin' stuff with Glenn before hand and a few things so I know it went in.  I know some of the things that was going on with it. I was quite surprised it really ' appened. I thought a fragile ego would stop it at some point.

Steve: Yeah.

Rat: But it never did.

Steve: No I think it was like we 'ad to prove it, that we could PLAY.

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: Cos not a lot of people ever saw us.

Rat: No, no.

Steve: I'm sure a lot of people 'aven't seen you guys original line-up.

Rat: Well yeah, probably not...well its the same thing you know. Is Captain Sensible still like a menacing sort of, when Sensible used to go on stage he was like the joker you know.  He was like this out of control psychotic, you know the front row didn't feel safe.

Steve:  Right.

Rat: And I think that was all part of it, that there was that thing there and you know, people put on a few pounds and get a bit cuddly round the edge and their not really the dangerous sort of...well you know?

Steve: Well it'd be silly if it was the same as it was, tryin' to act like yer eighteen.

Rat: Well that's what gets me when I see old punks on telly and that doin' interviews.  They always try and pull this, "I'm still a rebel," card and...

Steve:  Stupid.

Rat:  Yeah, I just wanna turn off every time I see anyone do that.

Steve: Yeah, cos they're not bein' themselves.

Rat: Exactly!

Steve: They're actin' 'ow they think they should be actin.'

Rat: And its, "I've still got it, I'm..." you know and "I'm." My kids sit there and they look at some of them and they,

"this bloke's an idiot Dad."

And I'm like well not really but he doesn't know 'ow to behave in front of this camera.

Steve: He hasn't grown up, yeah?

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: Do you live in London?

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: What area?

Rat: West London.

Steve: Where?

Rat: In Brentford.

Steve: Oh you do?

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: Do you ever go to Brentford football matches?

Rat: No, very rarely but they're doin' the business this year I think.

Steve: They're doin' alright.

Rat: Well the manager's kickin' in and they've got a few quid goin' into it and the supporters are buyin' the club this year. So there's...You know there's big issues about them takin' over the ground for development and all of that so there's a kind of a...we might lose it we might not.  And I quite like 'avin'it there and I do support it but I don't really bother to go to the games cos its like you don't when you live round the corner.

Steve:  Yeah, yeah. Well I would if I supported them but you just don't support 'em.

Rat: Nah, not really.

Steve: Do you 'ave any favourite team - if you did like support a team - you'd support?

Rat:  No I did use to go up Chelsea and recently I been watchin' Man United but I don't.  Its not like I'm a fan or a supporter.  I enjoy watchin' a good game of football.  And I don't really care who it is playin' its why I like the World Cup and all that, cos they're the best players, its the best games and you're seein' top-class football.  But to be a supporter, its like a devotion and a life style innit, it is goin' to the games and it is standin' in the rain and when they lose, you know, standin' in the pub going: "uh"

Steve: Moanin' about it, yeah well that is all part of it.

Rat: And it is part of it.  I mean my local (local pub) is where they all go, you know. Its a football pub and they've all got Brentford tattoos and its you know and I like that thing that people are devoted to summink like that but I'm not.

Steve: You're a fan of pie and mash?

Rat:  Yeah.

Steve: When was the last time you 'ad pie and mash?

Rat: Coo, that'd be about five years ago.

Steve: Ah.  You're a fairweather then?

Rat: Well yeah.  But there ain't, where the pie and mash shops then?

Steve: Goldhawk road.

Rat: Where?

Steve: Cookes!  Goldhawk road right by the (what the) bloody hell's that. Animal? Bleedin' 'orse runnin down the... (a scuffle had been heard somewhere and startled the pair).

Rat: Somethin' in the airvent.

Steve: Summinks come out of the 'port'ole!

They both laugh.

Steve: You know where Shepherd's Bush market is in Goldhawk Road?

Rat: Yeah.

Steve:  There's one right there. Cooke's Pie and Mash shop.

Rat: I just didn't know that.

Steve: Just up the street from you, right?

Rat: It is.

Steve: Do you 'ave a car?

Rat: Nah, not in London, I don't bovver cos um...

Steve: Its a joke innit?

Rat: Really.

Steve: 'Specially if you go right in Central London.

Rat Yeah and I live near the station and all that and we got trains that are alright and I'll be in London in 25 minutes.

Steve: Can you get to the Goldhawk road, that's 'ard though innit?

Rat: Er that's a bit that 'ard...I get the 267 (bus) if I wanna do that.  And that can be a little bit more complicated.

Steve: They're closed on Mondays I think.

Rat: Are they?  Hmmmm.

Steve:  (Spooky voice). I command you.

Rat:  You can. get some liquor in you.

Rat:  Pie and Mish.

Steve: That's one of the things...

Rat:  You have it flown over?

Steve: I tried it once, it was a bit of a disappointment, they 'ad to freeze it.

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: Then when it faws out, its a bit disappointin'

Rat:  What do you miss over here then?

Steve: What do I miss over there?

Rat: From, while you are here what do you miss from London?

Steve: I miss Pie and Mash and I miss football.  And I miss walkin'...

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: ...around.  I like to walk.  That's the great thing about London, you can just walk and walk and its great.

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: Other than that, there's not a lot I miss.

Rat: Well yeah. I dunno 'ow much its changed now though. Probably as borin' as I am.

Steve: No, no.  I just like it 'ere.   I just like bein' 'ere.  I just go where I like and I dunno why I was drawn to sunny Southern California but I was.

Rat:  Well it is good 'ere innit?

Steve:  You know I dunno why I was drawn 'ere with all the crumpet and the er... (a text message alert sounds).

Rat: Fine foods?

Steve:  Fine foods.

Rat: Fast flash motors?

Steve: Miniskirts an' 'igh 'eels an'

Rat: Guitar shops?

Steve: Palm trees and...

Rat: Gold watches?

Steve: A lot of phoney people.  I dunno, I love it. I fit in.  Fit right in.  Young birds.

Rat: Mmmm.

Steve: Nice round arses.  Its excellent.

Rat: Well what other shape would they be then?

Steve: Well you do get some birds who 'ave flat arses.  That is such a turn off to me.  What kind of birds...?  Oh you're married.

Rat: I'm a married man, I am.

Steve: Can you talk about what kind of woman you like?

Rat:  Only the sort that are waiting for me at the hotel, Dave.

Steve: Excellent answer.  Its over!  Four Nil.  Chelsea won.

Rat: Frank Skinner will be gutted.

Steve: It sez 'ere that Suggs is comin' 'ere in September for some gigs.  From Madness.  He's at the game, he's at the Chelsea game.  OK. Are you ready to play some drums?

Rat: Well, table drums...

Steve: Of course.

Rat: Manage that. No sound check though so...

Steve:  When have you ever sound checked?

Rat:  Uh.  (faux put out) Huh Consumate professionals.

Steve: Oh yeah you played with the Hurdy Gurdy man, I'm sorry.   What are we giving away?  Devo tickets. 3 pairs of Devo tickets at "the house of everything but blues" in Anaheim.

I can't transcribe the whistling part, that would be plain stupid.  But the answer was the Rolling Stones.

They return:

Steve: You're listenin to Jonesy's jukebox on Indie one oh free one with my guest Rat Scabies from the Damned.  Hopefully you'll do a re-union and make some money and you'll all live happily ever after.   See the good thing is another thing I can tell you about from doing that on the road, you kind of make your terms.  Where you're not friends, you're doing this for a job and then after the show you can go and do your thing and you don't see them again until when you come back on stage the next day.  You don't have to all be in the van going up the M1. again.

Rat: No, that's really a terrifying thought innit.

Steve: You know what I mean?

Rat:  Yeah, no...

Steve: Cos yeah I think you could make some...when was the last time you guys originally played, the Damned.  With original line up with Brian James?

Rat: Oh, well that was what, that must have been '78 or something...I don't know, no, no, wait, wait, we did a re-union tour didn't we around '86 or something.

Steve: That's still a long time ago.

Rat: Yeah, no yeah, it is quite a while.

Steve: And you're lucky, as far as you still got, you're all alive!

Rat: Yeah I guess, there's a lot of 'em.

Steve: A lot of them are croakin' (dying).

Rat: Yeah it gets a bit depressing, the old phone goes and, "d'yer 'ear who died?"

Steve: Yeah, yeah.

Rat: But that's what 'appens.  Er, I've 'eard that sort of all arguments that you should just because you can and people want to see what the original thing is.

Steve: Well you wanna make some dough, forget all that.

Rat: Laughs.

Steve:  You wanna make some dough mate. And you should 'ave some dough.

Rat: I should 'ave a bloke deliverin' it every day in a little bag at the front door.

Steve: There's no reason you shouldn't be...'ave some dough. From bein' around from back in the day, from what we all created!

Rat: Mmm.

Steve: You know what I mean?

Rat: Well yeah, be nice.

Steve: So you should never look at it as like, "its a liberty if I make some dough."

Rat:  No, I don't think I do, I'm not slow in askin' - you know - "sendin' the bill in."  But do you know what, I'm just dead moody about what I want to do.  Cos if I'm not gonna enjoy it and 'ave a laugh...

Steve: Its not forever.   Its a period of time you'll be on the road for.

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: Make the bank and that's it, "see you later."

Rat:  Well thanks, 'ow much is that?

Steve: That'll be two hundred dollars for my consultation.

Rat:  Thank you very much.

Steve: You can leave it in books.  Paperback books.

They both laugh.

The winners of the Rat and Steve combined strumming whistling and table top drumming competition are announced.  The song they played was from "Let it Bleed" by the Rolling Stones and it was called, "Live With Me".

Steve: Its bin a pleasure 'avin' you 'ere.

Rat: Its bin a pleasure to be 'ere, thank you.

Steve: And don't forget to tell the postman that "I'm the man who can for two hours a day," does what he wants. "The Sire of Wilshire." "The honky of Hammersmith," "The Liquor/Licker of Lichtenstein." "The czar of guitar."  Got anythink to add to that?

Rat: No, not really, I think you've said it all.

Steve: You think that's about it?  There's loads more, I gotta write 'em down. Stupid. Where's my assistant?

"Take these down, you fool!"

Er, be back tomorrow gonna leave you with that Stones song, bye bye.

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Welcome back to Chriswasanon, the blog about a...First the goss that's fit to publish. Myspacer Pauly Poos was snapped recently in London standing next to Cookie.  I think that photo op was connected to a recent highly successful gig by the Professionals at the 100 Club in London. No sire on the guitar though.

Last night my good friend Alison posted upon facebook that Jonesy's juke box was back.  Exciting news! Then total co-pilot of this ole blog Tina got back to me, telling me it was NOW!  This time its to be found on something very SOCal and streamey called, "" At a similar tyme to the 12 bells of yore too, right Steve?  Although, he's only doing one show one day a week.  That day is Friday!  Sorry Jewelly. :-(   FRIDAYS NOON UNTIL 2 PM.  Cali time.  So 8pm till 10pm UK time.

Now back to the blog.  Last time we left the Rat Scabies interview I was feeling guilt struck because Rat scabies himself had told me to post the rest of his interview and I still had not.  Heh...

Wednesday, October 14, 2015

Who are you?

A teaser for something cool to come,  Before we get started, where on Earth have all the links on this page gone. Does anyone care that there are no longer any links?   Perhaps the only link really needed is to Stuart MM's Jonesy's Jukebox page.  Who are you?  I am CwA!  Fortunately positing that question nowadays does not result in an armed with a solarizer pepperpot-cum pedal powered dustbin getting all "exterminatey."  Example below.

Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Reforming CWA blog? And the life and death of Indie 103.1

The dust in here is terrible.  Its been over five years since we had a squeak out of this blog.   But just because Indie has gone, that doesn't mean that we have to just quietly disappear into the porthole. Though I suppose we have really.  And the portal. And I thought I'd lost the keys to this blog too.  Dead beat at the mo, having had five hours sleep.  If you missed the inside lowdown on what happened to Indie, here it is.  I think I'm going to post something this space.  Meantime to keep you amused:  

CwA. 2015.

Thursday, October 07, 2010

Thursday, April 08, 2010

Malcolm is DEAD.

Malcolm McLaren, Artiste, Situationiste,  impressario and haberdasher, whips  chains bondage, SEX clothing, teddy boy revival clothier and the notorious mismanager of the Sex Pistols died yesterday in a Swiss hospital. He had been fighting a long battle with cancer. I just logged into the social networking and found you do.

A controversial figure. In my narrow experience with the, "what do you think of Malcolm" question I think he was a pretty creative powerhouse myself.   Not much more can be said at this juncture in time but I've added in this old, old screen from The Great Rock and Roll Swindle of a cartoon Malcolm going down with The Good Ship Venus...and a pair of his "Dead In England," "Ancien," range of SEX and Seditionaries era reboots. This time the classic 70's trouser. Thumbprint signature haute couture label visible on the rear pocket.  Sometimes this stuff appears on eBay.  Not that the togs matter but wasn't one of the punk era slogans, "like brain, like trouser." ?!

And also there is this link from the Daily Mirror with a nice picture:

So Farewell Malcolm McLaren, fi the flooers o' the forest are a wede awa.

This site even contains some of our old transcriptions...but this is an excellent piece from Phil Singleton at  Slightly disagree on the matter of Ghosts of Oxford Street, loved Buffalo gals, not wrong about everyone blaming Malcolm. I still love the Swindle and know for a fact that Steve Jones likes it too, along with Phil and many other silly old buggers, I can probably recite wholesale chunks of it.

What did Malcolm McLaren mean to you?

My thoughts are with his friends and family.

That is All.

That's enough.

Chris A.non

Friday, November 20, 2009

6 music...

So what will happen when Google dies? Will all blogs created in blogspot die too?

Will tomorrow nights homemade curry be as successful a curry as those which we can buy in little plastic containers with lids on? Facebook mode off.

I had some news the other day of import which filled my sour heart with cheer, though getting to hear the show on this old computer proved staggeringly annoying. My good friend Stuart...

The lad with the pencils, (not the lad in California called MM) sent me this. I'm quite sure that he'll not mind me using it to plug Jones.

I've caught only one show so far just from BBC 6 music's quartet of Jonesology. "A month of Sundays." Entertaining Mr. Jones. Its the usual jukebox eclectic mix of the wild and the funny and the monologously phiolosophical from the Pontiff.


Some things are different with the Beeb. The absence of Mark Sovel, who letds face it had long since stopped being the straight man. The station identifier Indie 1031. The familiar annoying jarring jingles about flogging bubble cars to people down on Long Beach and the interminable adverts for Joe Escalator. Not to mention the House of Everything but blues...

What ever happened to Indie 103.1?

Aaaaaaaaaaaand of course the pants or mustard contests . The tunes are there, no whistling but or strumming oh and the belching has been replaced by moaning and the farting seems to have been knocked on zer head...

I have missed 2 shows...I'm such a silly sausage. I bet YOU haven't? Eh!

What has Auntie Beeb let herself in for? I bet she's never put mustard into her Granny pants!

Right kids?

I have to say that I love it and all the howling Jonesless hordes Worldwide since Indie 103.1 died will doubtless LOVE IT too. So fill yer lugholes.

Double plus excellent those damn yanks have to listen to our crappy jingles instead of Indie 103.1 blather about escalators and Camp Freddy.

We're going to visit the Duke and we'll be right back after...

Next Sunday.


Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Rat Scabies or Chris Millar visits the box. part 2

My God was it really that long ago?

Welcome back to Chriswasanon, the No 1. sporadic force for transcriptions when the tapes can be had when with quality max renderings of that ancient and now deceased unique Californian musical institution, Jonesy’s Jukebox on the Indie 103.1 station we rewind the very best bits of the old rusting box in the corner now forgotten (sob). Last time we left our one comatose reader, Rat Scabies was saying this:

“Pass me another glass of claret.”
And Steve was saying this:

"... New Rose.We’re here with Chris Millar, the drummer in the Damned and this is New Rose. Take it away…."

Did I tell you about the 30th anniversary edition of NMTB? Get one, get the poster, frame it, vacuum it, settle the needle on the stylus and enjoy. Did I?

I think that when I posted the first part of that Rat Interview that was happening...and this has weighed heavily with me but then when one receives a missive from the great man himself, one eventually gets one's finger aht and posts...

Part one of this interview is here, or you can scroll down.

So lets have at part two...

Steve: Well let’s hear it anyway. New Rose.We’re here with Chris Millar, the drummer in the Damned and this is New Rose. Take it away….

Steve: You’re listenin’ to Jonesy’s Jukebox on Indie103.1 with my guest Rat Scabies.

RS: Hey, Hi.

Steve: Hi Rat. That was Status Quo and that was Paper Plane. Was you a fan of Status Quo?

Nice sleeve.

RS: Not publicly but…

Steve: You was a closet like me, yeah.

RS: Well they did fast songs that was…

Steve: You get ‘ung right if you’d ‘ave copped to what you really liked (“copped,” admitted)

RS: Oh yeah.

Steve: That’s what I say, I was a big fan of Boston but I couldn’t tell anybody.

RS: No well I never went that (ffff) underground. I weren’t that deep.

Steve There was no need for that (referring to Scabies almost saying the eff word) Who, was you a closet…was you a closet Quo fan then?

RS: No I used to well the thing is back then a band would make an album, there’d maybe one or two tracks on it that were sort of acceptable like. I think my biggest one is probably King Crimson, “21st Century Schizoid Man,” I think that’s…

Steve: Well that is way worse than Boston!

RS: Well…

Steve: That’s nothing to be proud of mate.

RS: I don’t know…I think I need some sort of support group for that.

Steve: King Crimson, who else? Give us another good one.

RS: I don’t know, no there weren’t that much. I used to like quite obscure things like I remember there was this one…

Steve: Harvest?

RS: No no it was nothin’ as bad as that but really I was sort of like a bit of an Who fan and…

Steve: Oh the Who that was acceptable, that was on the cusp of being acceptable.

RS: Well and Alex Harvey, there was a couple of Ten Years After tracks I liked. “Love like a man” was always a winner and a bit of Cream here and there but…

Steve: He was a great guitar player, old…

RS: Alvin Lee?

Steve: Alvin Lee, brilliant guitar player. That’s my favourite on Woodstock that ‘im doin’ Goin’ ‘Ome is my favourite out of all of the Woodstock, ‘im doin’ that, it’s brilliant.

RS: Yeah I think…I saw him play once at the Isle of Wight Festival, you know the big you know after Woodstock when they English thought they’d have a go?

Steve: Yeah. Yeah.

RS: And did that. I went to that.

Steve: Was Free..?

RS: Yeah Free was on it, like everyone was it Miles Davis, The Who, Hendrix it was. I was like um what fourteen.

Steve: What year was that?

RS: 72-73? (It was 1970. Hendrix died soon after). I was there lookin’ after an ‘ot dog stall while Jimi Hendrix played.

Whilst Hendrix played, Rat flogged zer hot dogs...

Steve: Was yer?

RS: Yeah

Steve: Excellent.

RS: The Good old days, it was nice.

Steve: We gotta visit the Duke we’ll be right back with some more wonderful stories from Chris Millar, the author. Thanks for listening.

They return.

Steve: Belching. Pardon! Jonesy’s Jukebox on Indie 103.1 with my guest Rat Scabies, the author, drummer and er…

RS: Grail hunter!

Steve: And Grail Hunter and thief of old antiquities. You was on the Anarchy Tour, right?

RS: Yeah!

The much reproduced poster of one of those cancelled dates on the Anarchy Tour...

Steve: Who was on that? There was the Pistols, there was Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers and Clash..

RS: And us. The Damned.

Steve: That was it, there weren’t no one else?

RS: No.

Steve: Do you remember gettin’ on the bus at Shaftesbury Avenue? No at round the corner from Denmark Street, didn’t we all get on the bus there?

RS: No we weren’t travellin’ with you lot.

Steve: Oh!

RS: We was in a van. On our own. Lonely.

Steve: Why was that then, why did that happen?

RS: Well…I don’t know. I think there was all this between Malcolm and Jake. I don’t think they really liked each other very much.

Steve: Oh, Jake was your manager?

RS: Jake Riviera and I think that…

Steve: That’s a dodgy name though innit?

RS: Malcolm Mclaren? Eh? Huh.. Well that’s even more stable and reliable isn’t it?

Steve: (Loudly in a pushy salesman-type voice) Hi Jake Riviera, nice to meet you!

RS: At least you know you can’t trust ‘im.

Both laugh.

Steve: Well everyone knows Malcolm.

RS: Yeah but I think that was the things really they were sort of at each other and I think they saw the two bands (Sex Pistols and Damned) as a threat or whatever and I think, you know.

Steve: It was pretty crowded on that bus though…

RS: It was, in fact we was probably better off in the van really.

Steve: Yeah.

RS: But I think it was the money thing really. Cos we were really quite jealous of you lot, we never said that but you had this nice luxury bus and stayin’ in Holiday Inns…

Steve: Well…

RS: …and we’re sittin’ on a mattress on the top of the bass cabinet goin’ to Mrs. Bun’s guesthouse down in Rotherham, you know. It weren’t quite the sort of luxury Rock ‘n’ Roll style that I, you know…life-style I was expectin’.

Steve: Yeah but…

RS: (Both talk at once) But none the less, I , we did do the one show though which was the only one we did with that poster line-up.

Steve: Which one?

RS: In Leeds it was weren’t it?

Steve: Was that the first night?

RS: No it weren’t cos I, as I recollect there was quite a lot cancelled (laughs) left, right and centre..

Steve: Cos of the Bill Grundy show.

RS: Well yeah, the first one was like Norwich or somewhere silly like that (University of East Anglia Student’s Union).

Steve: I don’t even remember.

RS: Yeah, well I been researching it for a film script I’m workin’ on.

Steve: Doin’ another book about the Anarchy Tour?

RS: No I’m…a film about the Anarchy Tour is what I’m tryin’ to write at the moment.

Steve: Oh yeah.

RS: What I’m workin’ on…But yeah that one night though yeah, I think that was the best I ever saw the Pistols cos I…I did see you quite a lot you remember I used to go to St Albans Art College.

Steve: That was really early weren’t it?.

RS: That was…

Steve: …not even a stage.

RS: No, no.

Steve: We all looked like we were like twelve years old. I saw some pictures from that actually at St. Albans, that was incredible.

RS: I know, I know, what were they afraid of?

Steve: I know, exactly.

RS: It’s quite, quite surreal now. But that one night on the Anarchy Tour the band was brilliant cos I remember. The audience was horrible cos it was like mostly journalists and football hooligans and skinheads cos there weren’t many punks around really at that point. But I just remember that because like all the bands were really on it. It was a bit like race ‘orses bein’ ‘eld back. Waitin’ to…you know?

Steve: Play, yeah.

RS: “You can play you’re gonna play tonight.” and then we’d get there and then everything. the gear would be in and then it would be: “No sorry lads, you’re not actually gonna plug that guitar in anywhere. You gotta go ‘ome instead.”

Steve: Yeah that was a weird old thing that, the cancellin’ thing and I think McLaren revelled in it cos it was all publicity but…

RS: Do you think he did?
You know I tend to suspect he just didn’t know what to do.

Steve: Yeah, I don’t know. (CwA has wondered over this for a long time. Is MM an evil Svengali?)

Very early and rare Sex Pistols gig poster , created by Malcolm?

RS: Cos he weren’t ‘appy about the Grundy show, was he?

Steve: Not..oh originally.

RS: He told old (cos we were rehearsin’) an’ he was tellin’ the whole of the Sex Pistols off in no uncertain terms that they’d blown their career…

Steve: …until he saw the pape rs the next day and then (Proclaims proudly in Mclaren- type voice)
I invented the Bill Grundy show.

RS: And you know why you got that Bill Grundy show…

Steve: Queen…

RS: Cos Freddie Mercury had to go to the dentist.

Steve: Well he has got a lot of teeth.

RS: And well you can see and…um…(laughs thinking of taking FM’s teeth further into more risque realms) um I’m stoppin’ right there!

Steve: Poor dentist, he had a hammer and chisel. God bless ‘im.

RS: God rest his soul.

Steve: Great performer.

RS: If it hadn’t of been for Freddie’s toothache…

Steve: We would never have sworn on tv.

RS: You would never have sworn on telly.

Steve: What did you think of it, did you actually see it live?

RS: No I was, do you know what we was waitin’ for you lot in some draughty hall to turn up for rehearsal.

Steve: That’s right, in Kilburn right?

RS: In Kilburn and I was sittin’ there freezin’ me bollocks off – didn’t know what was goin’ on, you come in with Malcolm shoutin’ at you and the next day I was getting’ the bus to go and meet up with ? for the tour and you was everywhere. Half of…aside no! Ugh and then bein’…but the knock-on effect was really terrible cos it was like everyone ‘ated the Sex Pistols but anybody with spiky ‘air’d do (would do).

Steve: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

The Sex Pistols did not just invent dissent during the Queen's Silver Jubilee celebrations of 1977 in the UK. as this contemporary badge or pin shows.

RS: I remember on Jubilee day in England it was so terrible, England cos you had this huge wave of patriotism and street parties and Union Jacks and pictures of the Queen everywhere but if you ‘ad spiky ‘air and parallel jeans you know it was like the whole country was likely to give you a good kickin’.

Steve: Yeah, ‘specially the Teddy Boys, they weren’t thrilled was they?

Rat: No

Steve: Most people actually.

Rat: No one was really thrilled, let’s…you know nobody liked us.

Steve: You was goin’ to tell a story about me and then you said


Rat: Was I?

Steve: Yeah, was it a disgustin’ story?

Rat: No.

Steve (To Sovel) Wasn’t he?

Sovel: Was it on the Anarchy tour?

Steve: On the road. On the Anarchy Tour?

Rat: I was only sayin’ about how good you were and great and marvellous and wonderful, it’s fantastic, I’m honoured to be here.

Steve. I thought you was (Groans) Ohhh.

Rat: You know I’m not worthy, its marvellous, your essence, it’s just…I’m gonna bottle the sweat and take it home with me.

Steve: You don’t have to do that, I’ll tell you what I’m going to do, I’m goin’ to let you ‘ave some
right now. False alarm, sorry, false alarm…  To do with the WBA game?

All Laugh.

Steve: Um, I thought you was goin’ to say somethin’ like what I did like.

Rat: Well only, I remember when you ordered a lot of drinks in (?) do you remember that pub in Portobello Road we all used to go in on a Saturday afternoon?

Steve : Yeah, yeah.

Rat: We was all in there and you went in and said, “Nah it’s alright, they’re all on me lads.” Then you ordered up all these drinks and while you was orderin’ ‘em you was pissin’ up the bar which was…then to add insult to injury you got them all in and then said to the bloke, “An’ I want one of them off the top shelf,” an’ as he went round to get it…Pssssh you were gone. (Laughs).

Steve: Terrible.

Rat: That was the sort of person you were Steve.

Steve: Is that good?

Rat: Well I don’t know, do you think that’s the sort of thing we want to show the World?

Steve: Is it book-worthy?

Rat: Er…

Steve: Is it Grail-worthy?

Rat: No, it’s not, it’s not really is it?

Steve: OK. Was you ever a fan of the Faces?

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: You like the Faces? This is Rod Stewart’s solo album but it’s actually the Faces playin’ on this one track, it’s all the Faces. This is one of my favourite songs, it makes me fuzzy-wuzzy when I hear it, it’s called True Blue, take it away…

Steve plays some songs. God it’s been so long I’ve forgotten how to transcribe!!! They return:

Steve: You’re listenin’ to Jonesy’s Jukebox on Indie 103.1 with my guest Rat Scabies, that was Queen, “Keep Yourself Alive,” from their first album entitled: "Queen" before that was “Long Haired Lover From Liverpool,” by um…what’s his name?

Rat: Little Jimmy Osmond of course.

Steve: Jimmy Osmond. Don’t you want to punch is face in ‘earin that?

Rat: I did then, which probably, like ‘ow old would he be now? He’d probably kill me.

Steve: He’s probably bigger than me now.

Rat: Yeah probably but then he was an irritatin’ little tick.

Steve: And then we had the Rubettes, that was one of Rat’s choices, “I can do it.”

Rat: Mmm.

Steve: That was your favourite Rubettes song?

Rat: Yeah, I like the racket on that, went fast.

Steve: Very good.

Rat: Energy

Steve: Almost like a teddy boy song.

Rat: In a way, were they the teddy boy band?

Steve: No, they were the phoney ones, they were phoney teddy boys.

Rat: Who were the ones…?

Steve: They all ‘ad long ‘air and they put their long ‘air up under their caps

Rat: They ‘ad them big white caps they used to wear, that was the Rubettes, that was their image.

Steve That was there hook, there, you know I went to see ‘em, when I was in London, four years ago or five years ago, mebbe before the Crystal Palace thing and saw ‘em at the Hammersmith, no the London Palladium, it was the Rubettes, Alvin Stardust and Suzy Quatro.

Rat: Coo, top night out.

Steve: It was quite funny.

Rat: How was Suzy Quatro?

Steve: She wasn’t that good actually, I was quite disappointed but Alvin Stardust was on form.

Rat: Really? Did he ‘ave the black leather glove with the ring on the outside?

Steve No, he didn’t, he was more like not carin’ about.

Rat: Cos he was the original black leather rocker bloke, weren’t he?

Steve: Well you know he how that ‘appened, he dyed his barnet before he went on and all the dye was on his hands…

Rat: Yeah

Steve: So he put the leather glove over it and that’s how that started.

Rat: Oh, I didn’t know that.

Steve: See most good things start from accidents an’ he put the ring over it, apparently, that’s what I heard, it could be complete bollocks..But that’s what I ‘eard. from someone. Um then we had Rod Stewart from an album, "Never a Dull Moment," that was a song called "True Blue" and before that was "Status Quo." No I’ve all ready said them right? Status Quo ones. Um what was I going to talk to you about? You played with Donovan or something?

Rat: Yeah, I’ve just been out on tour with him.

Steve: What was that like?

Rat: He’s a really, really nice guy. I really like him.

Steve: Is he mellow?

Rat: Yeah.

Steve: Yellow?

Rat: Very. (Laughs) Gooh Oooh, tripped over by Jones. No he’s a real, he’s sort of, I dunno how he’s thought of in America but in England he’s a sort of iconic folkie you know the original wandering minstrel and he’s got a lot of respect and you know he made a lot of great records so I thought it’d be nice to do for a lot of reasons. One of them bein’ it was artistically challenging to play quietly and…

Steve: I bet.

Rat: And do a sort of folkie thing rather than …

Steve: Was you Chris Millar on that tour?

Rat: I started off as Chris Millar and then he found out who I was (laughs) and then

Steve: He wanted you to er?

Rat: Then I gradually became, turned back into Rat Scabies. But he was you know, he looked after me an ‘urdy gurdy man was nice and loud an…

Steve: Did he er, pay yer with good ducats?

Rat: Er again yes, the er, the gilt at the end of the tour is always welcome.

Steve: A purse of silver for my fine rat.

Rat: (Indistinct)

Steve: And then we’ll go down to the coast and look for dead vicars. um we’re gonna visit the Duke, your ‘ere with Rat Scabies, you’re listenin to Jonesy’s Jukebox on Indie 103.1, fanx for listenin’

They return

Steve: You’re listenin to Jonesy’s Jukebox on Indie 103.1, with my guest Rat Scabies. Do you still talk to any of the lads from The Damned…

Cover of the very first Ripped and Torn - ye olde famousse Scottish Fanzine...Bought in Glasgow at a venue back in the day.  Credit to Rab Wilson an excellent Scottish poet for giving me a loan of his copy so we could scan this pic in.

To be continued and there's not much left now either...the amount of time it has taken me to input this data has, really pissed me really pissed me off and wanting to possibly Smash something up!